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Post by tequillin on Jun 26, 2006 16:56:30 GMT
A good recommendation aswell Mr Blonde. That match is a nice addition to Bret's DVD, but although I like it, I don't rate it too highly. I don't feel the chemistry was quite there yet between those two. They should have really put on a quicker, tighter and flowing match than they did, giving that they had previously wrestled 3 times in singles matches to this one.
Don't get me wrong, I really like the match, it's just I feel it's a bit sloppy at times and doesn't flow too well, considering they should have been able to tear the house down. I'm trying to get my hands on their Raw match, to compare the two.
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Post by Bamm Bamm Brody on Jun 26, 2006 17:38:57 GMT
Yeah, I agree that their pacing is a step or two off in some places, but I think when looking at that match, in THAT era of North American wrestling and in particular, WWF in the mid-90's, that match just seems out of a finer time and place. But in all seriousness, after watching Bret's DVDs, his work with Davey, Nash, Owen and Hennig make up for about 8 or so of my top 20 and that's even before I start looking at his stuff with HBK.
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Post by tequillin on Jun 26, 2006 17:49:00 GMT
Yeah, it is quite the gem at a time when the quality was at a huge low. I believe I'm going to change my list somewhat as I have since viewed many more classics I hadn't seen at the time of making my list all those months back.
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Post by tequillin on Aug 8, 2006 16:26:14 GMT
1. Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart - Wrestlemania 10 2. Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin - Wrestlemania 13 3. Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker - In Your House 18 4. Bret Hart vs. British Bulldog - In Your House 5 5. Bret Hart vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin - Survivor Series 1996 6. Shawn Michaels vs. Mankind - In Your House 10 7. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Jericho - Wrestlemania 19 8. Chris Benoit vs. Shawn Michaels vs Triple H - Wrestlemania 20 9. Shawn Michaels vs. Kurt Angle - Wrestlemania 21 10. Bret Hart vs. Mr Perfect - King of the Ring 1993 11. Kurt Angle & Chris Benoit vs. Edge & Rey Mysterio - No Mercy 2002 12. Kurt Angle vs. Chris Benoit - Royal Rumble 2003 13. Bret Hart vs. Shawn Michaels - Wrestlemania 12 14. Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart - Summerslam 1994 15. Bret Hart vs. British Bulldog - Summerslam 1992 16. Shawn Michaels vs. Razor Ramon - Summerslam 1995 17. Kurt Angle vs. Eddie Guerrero - Wrestlemania 20 18. Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat - Wrestlemania 3 19. Bret Hart vs. Mr Perfect - Summerslam 1991 20. Shawn Michaels vs. British Bulldog - King of the Ring 1996
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Post by TheDevilsApprentice on Aug 14, 2006 15:33:01 GMT
This is gonna be a tough one to choose. Here we go: 1. Eddie Guerrero vs Kurt Angle (Wrestlemania XX) [WWE Championship] 2. Benoit vs HBK vs HHH (Wrestlemania XX) [World Heavyweight Championship] 3. TLC II (Wrestlemania X-7) [Tag Team Championships] 4. TLC (Summerslam 2000) [Tag Team Championships] 5. Kurt Angle vs Shawn Michaels (Wrestlemania XXI) 6. Randy Orton vs Undertaker (Wrestlemania XXI) 7. Foley vs Edge [Street Fight] (Wrestlemania XXII) 8. Final Encounter - Benoit vs HBK vs HHH (Backlash 2004) [World Heavyweight Championship] 9. Armageddon Hell In A Cell (Armageddon 2000) [WWE Championship] 10. Triple H vs Vince McMahon [Street Fight] (Armageddon 1999) 11. Triple H vs Mick Foley [Street Fight - WWE Championship] (Royal Rumble 2000) 12. Triple H vs Undertaker (Wrestlemania X-7) 13. Elimination Chamber (New Year's Revolution - 2005) 14. HHH vs Rock (Judgement Day) [Ironman - WWE Championship] 15. Mick Foley vs Undertaker [Hell In A Cell] (King of the Ring 1998) 16. Mick Foley vs HHH [Hell In A Cell - WWE Championship] (No Way Out 2000) 17. Rock vs Mankind ["I Quit" - WWE Championship] (Royal Rumble 1999) 18. Inaugural Brawl (Invasion 2001) 19. Foley vs Orton [Hardcore - Intercontinental Championship] (Backlash 2004) 20. Steve Blackman vs Shane McMahon (SummerSlam 2000)
Thats my list.
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Post by coolcool on Oct 25, 2006 17:59:45 GMT
New List:
1. Mankind Vs. Shawn Michaels - In Your House: Mind Games - ***** 2. The Undertaker Vs. Shawn Michaels - In Your House: Bad Blood - ****3/4 3. Bret Hart Vs. Owen Hart - Wrestlemania X - ****3/4 4. Razor Ramon Vs. Shawn Michaels - Summerslam 1995 - ****3/4 5. Chris Benoit Vs. Kurt Angle - Royal Rumble 2003 - ****3/4 6. Steve Austin Vs. Bret Hart - Wrestlemania 13 - ****3/4 7. Shawn Michaels Vs. Kurt Angle - Wrestlemania 21 - ****3/4 8. Shawn Michaels Vs. Razor Ramon - Wrestlemania X - ****1/2 9. Shawn Michaels Vs. Jeff Jarrett - In Your House II - ****1/2 10. Ricky Steamboat Vs. Randy Savage - Wrestlemania 3 - ****1/2 11. Davey Boy Smith Vs. Bret Hart - In Your House 5 - ****1/2 12. Hart Foundation Vs. Steve Austin, Legion of Doom, Ken Shamrock and Goldust - In Your House: Canadian Stampede - ****1/2 13. Shawn Michaels Vs. Bret Hart - Wrestlemania 12 - ****1/2 14. Chris Benoit Vs. Shawn Michaels Vs. HHH - Wrestlemania XX - ****1/2 15. Bret Hart Vs. Curt Hennig - Summerslam 1991 - ****1/2 16. Bret Hart Vs. Diesel - Survivor Series 1995 - ****1/4 17. Bret Hart Vs. Curt Hennig - King of the Ring 1993 - ****1/4 18. Shawn Michaels Vs. Chris Jericho - Wrestlemania XIX - ****1/4 19. Eddie Guerrero Vs. Brock Lesnar - No Way Out 2004 - ****1/4 20. Shawn Michaels Vs. HHH - Bad Blood 2004 - ****1/4
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Post by PunksLikeYou on Nov 1, 2006 11:02:03 GMT
1) The Rock vs. Stone Cold - No DQ, Wrestlemania X7 2) Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart - Wrestlemania X 3) Matt Hardy vs. Edge – Cage Match, Unforgiven ’05 4) Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker – Hell in a Cell, In Your House: Bad Blood 5) Kurt Angle & Chris Benoit vs. Edge & Rey Mysterio - No Mercy ‘02 6) Chris Jericho vs. HHH – Last Man Standing, Fully Loaded ‘00 7) Shawn Michaels vs. Kurt Angle – Wrestlemania XXI 8) The Rock vs. HHH – Iron Man, Judgement Day ‘00 9) The Rock vs. HHH – Best 2/3 falls, Fully Loaded ‘98 10) Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect – Summerslam ‘91 11) Triple H vs. Chris Benoit vs. Shawn Michaels – Wrestlemania XX 12) Edge & Christian vs. The Brood (Hardy Boyz) – Ladder Match, No Mercy ‘99 13) Eddie Guerrero vs. Brock Lesnar – No Way Out ‘04 14) Bret Hart v British Bulldog – Summerslam '92 15) Shawn Michaels vs. Jeff Jarrett – In Your House II 16) Chris Benoit Vs Kurt Angle – Royal Rumble ‘03 17) Shawn Michaels vs. Kurt Angle – Vengeance ‘05 18) HHH vs. Shawn Michaels – Unsanctioned Street Fight, SummerSlam ‘02 19) The Rock vs. Chris Jericho - No Mercy ‘01 20) Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels - WrestleMania 19
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Post by coolcool on Nov 4, 2006 21:59:03 GMT
Yikes.
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Post by tequillin on Nov 4, 2006 22:11:58 GMT
Besides that it's not that bad of a list, so it's not really a big deal he's plopped that on there. Bret Hart > Chow Yun-Fat
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Post by Silver Kyle on Nov 5, 2006 0:36:53 GMT
Besides that it's not that bad of a list, so it's not really a big deal he's plopped that on there. Plus they might not be in order. I really have to make a list in here eventually. LOL I remember that.
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Post by rashadz2 on Nov 8, 2006 1:48:04 GMT
1) The Rock vs. Stone Cold - No DQ, Wrestlemania X7 2) Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart - Wrestlemania X 3) Matt Hardy vs. Edge – Cage Match, Unforgiven ’05 4) Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker – Hell in a Cell, In Your House: Bad Blood 5) Kurt Angle & Chris Benoit vs. Edge & Rey Mysterio - No Mercy ‘02 6) Chris Jericho vs. HHH – Last Man Standing, Fully Loaded ‘00 7) Shawn Michaels vs. Kurt Angle – Wrestlemania XXI 8) The Rock vs. HHH – Iron Man, Judgement Day ‘00 9) The Rock vs. HHH – Best 2/3 falls, Fully Loaded ‘98 10) Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect – Summerslam ‘91 11) Triple H vs. Chris Benoit vs. Shawn Michaels – Wrestlemania XX 12) Edge & Christian vs. The Brood (Hardy Boyz) – Ladder Match, No Mercy ‘99 13) Eddie Guerrero vs. Brock Lesnar – No Way Out ‘04 14) Bret Hart v British Bulldog – Summerslam '92 15) Shawn Michaels vs. Jeff Jarrett – In Your House II 16) Chris Benoit Vs Kurt Angle – Royal Rumble ‘03 17) Shawn Michaels vs. Kurt Angle – Vengeance ‘05 18) HHH vs. Shawn Michaels – Unsanctioned Street Fight, SummerSlam ‘02 19) The Rock vs. Chris Jericho - No Mercy ‘01 20) Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels - WrestleMania 19 I must say, I like your #1. A bit puzzled by 3 and 9.
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Post by PunksLikeYou on Nov 14, 2006 12:03:53 GMT
The top two on my list are my favourite matches; #s 3-20 are in the order I thought of them, and I'd just rewatched Hardy-Edge. But it definately deserves a position on the list, it's a superb match. At the time the whole feud annoyed me - it was sidetracking Edge from his push to the top and I really didn't care about Hardy. But on that night they really brought the house down with Matt giving the performance of his life. I generally don't care for gimmick matches because they almost necessitate poor logic but this one just used the cage to add to the psychology, and they told a logical yet mark-out story. I do seem to be the only person who likes the 2/3 Rock vs HHH match, but heel Rock is always fun and it's HHH's best face performance by some distance. I love how gutted he looks at the finish. Also, Chow Yun Fat > Pretty much everyone. If Bret Hart were to go about carrying a baby and a combat shotgun it'd just look silly and contrived.
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Post by tequillin on Nov 14, 2006 18:19:16 GMT
Bret Hart enforces the law in Lonesome Dove, whilst riding a horse and cart though.
Plus, he says "Don't Smoke" and can crush a hundred cigarettes with his bare hands.
I also love Rock/HHH 2/3 Falls but I wouldn't say it's HHH's best performance. I'd pick something from 2000 like his street fight with Foley, LMS with Jericho or Iron Man with Rock maybe.
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Post by euanzooom on Nov 14, 2006 18:27:05 GMT
Edge v Hardy is better than a substantial number of matches on this last page and a fucking great piece of storytelling.2nd or 3rd best match of 2005, in my opinion.I have to say I find some of the choices surprising.
(Edge v Hardy is not in mine, btw)
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Post by coolcool on Nov 14, 2006 21:27:02 GMT
While I agree it was very good at a 2005 MOTYC, it has no place on a top 20 WWE PPV matches list. I think I have it at ****.
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Post by Leonard(o) on Nov 14, 2006 22:34:44 GMT
In no particular order:
1) Chris Jericho v. Shawn Michaels (Wrestlemania XIX)
2) Bret Hart v. Owen Hart (Wrestlemania X)
3) Edge v. Mick Foley (Wreslemania XXII)
4) Chris Benoit v. Shawn Michaels v. Triple H (Wrestlemania XX)
5) Bret Hart v. Mr. Perfect (SummerSlam 1991)
6) Kurt Angle v. Chris Benoit (Royal Rumble 2003)
7) Shawn Michaels v. Triple H (Bad Blood 2004)
8) Shawn Michaels v. the Undertaker (Badd Blood 1997)
9) Edge & Rey Mysterio v. Kurt Angle & Chris Benoit v. Los Guerreros (Survivor Series 2002)
10) Eddie Guerrero v. Kurt Angle (Wrestlemania XX)
11) Shawn Michaels v. Triple H (Summerslam 2002)
12) Kurt Angle v. Shawn Michaels (Wrestlemania XXI)
13) Ricky Steamboat v. Randy Savage (Wrestlemania III)
14) Edge & Christian v. the Dudleyz v. Hardy Boyz-TLC (Wrestlemania 2000)/(Wrestlemania X-7)-tie
15) Bret Hart v. Shawn Michaels (Wrestlemania XX!!)
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Post by rashadz2 on Nov 15, 2006 17:46:12 GMT
I didn't say it was a bad match, just not top 20 material. I prefer their ladder match the next month at Summerslam, which is still the best ladder match in WWE history.
And in case anyone was interested, I decided to make a list of my own:
1. Bret Hart vs. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin- Submission Match-Wrestlemania 13 2. Bret Hart vs. The British Bulldog-Summerslam 1992 3. Shawn Micahels vs. the Undertaker-Hell in a Cell- Badd Blood 1997 4. "Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs. Triple H-3 stages of hell-Noway Out 2001 5. Owen Hart vs. Bret Hart-Wrestlemania 10 6. The Rock vs. Triple H-Ladder Match-Summerslam 1998 7. Razor Ramone vs. Shawn Michaels-Ladder Match-Summerslam 1995 8. Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels-Wrestlemania 21 9. The Rock vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin-Wrestlemania 17 10.Cactus Jack vs. Triple H-Street Fight-Royal Rumble 2000 11. Razor Ramone vs. Shawn Michaels-Ladder Match-Wrestlemania 10 12. "Macho Man" Randy Savage vs. Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat- Wrestlemania 3 13. The Rock vs. Triple H- Iron Man Match-Judgment Day 2000 14. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Jericho-Wrestlemania 19 15. Stone Cold Steve Austin vs. The Undertaker-Summerslam 1998 16. Chris Benoit vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H-Wrestlemania XX 17. Chris Benoit vs. Kurt Angle-Royal Rumble 2003 18. Bret Hart vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin-Survivor Series 1996 19. "Macho Man" Randy Savage vs. The Ultimate Warrior-Retirement Match-Wrestlemania 7 20. Stone Cold Steve Austin vs. The Rock-Wrestlemania 19
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Post by Silver Kyle on Dec 27, 2006 19:47:03 GMT
1. 10/5/97 Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker ***** 2. 3/20/94 Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart ****3/4 3. 3/23/97 Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin ****3/4
I'll get back with the rest of the list later.
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Post by oresama on Dec 29, 2006 18:00:17 GMT
In no paticular order:
1.Edge vs Matt Hardy Cage match Unforgiven 05 2.Austin vs Bret WM 13 3.1992 Royal Rumble match 4.Bret Hart vs Mr Perfect Summerslam 91 5.Bret Hart vs Mr Perfect King of the Ring 93 6.Undertaker vs Mankind IYH Revenge of Taker 97 7.Shawn Michaels vs Mankind IYH Mindgames 96 8.Edge vs Shawn Michaels Royal Rumble 05 9.Team Bischoff vs Team Austin Survivor Series 03 10.Kurt Angle vs Shawn Michaels WM 21 11.Undertaker vs Mankind Boiler Room Brawl Summerslam 96 12.Austin vs Owen Heart Summerslam 97 13.Bret Hart vs Owen WM 10 14.Bret Hart vs Owen Cage match Summerslam 94 15.Shawn Michaels vs Chris Jericho WM 19 16.Bret vs Shawn Iron Man match WM 12 17.Bret Hart vs Undertaker one Night Only 97 18.Jericho vs Benoit 2/3 Falls Summerslam 00 19.Jericho vs Benoit Submission match Judgement Day 00 20.Shawn Michaels vs Kurt Angle Vengance 05
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